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UPDATE: Overall, this was a very polite debate, as both candidates suggested that there was common ground.
Walz drove home the civility of the debate when, as the event neared its conclusion, he admitted, “I’ve enjoyed tonight’s debate, and there was a lot of commonalities here, and I’m sympathetic to misspeaking on things, and I think I might have with the senator.”
“Me too, man,” Vance interjected.
Norah O’Donnell and Margaret Brennan did what good moderators do: They kept things moving along and they asked specific and sharp questions.
It’ll probably be remembered for two major gaffes — Tim Walz‘s admission that he “misspoke” about being present in China during the Tiananmen Square protests, and JD Vance‘s refusal to say that Donald Trump lost the 2020 election.
PREVIOUSLY: Tim Walz pressed JD Vance on a question tied to Donald Trump’s continued claims that the 2020 election was rigged.
“Did he lose the 2020 election?” Walz asked.
Vance didn’t answer, and instead said he was focused tried to attack the Biden administration and tech platforms for alleged “censorship.”
“That is a damning non-answer,” Walz said.
“It’s a damning non answer for you to not talk about censorship,” Vance said. “Obviously Donald Trump and I think that there were problems in 2020. We’ve talked about it.”
Vance tried to whitewash the events of January 6th, claiming that the fact that Joe Biden was sworn in was proof that there was a “peaceful transfer of power.” In fact, 140 police officers were assaulted at the Capitol, and Trump waited until late in the afternoon to tell his supporters to go home. As rioters were threatening Mike Pence, Trump tweeted, “Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done.” Walz called Vance’s characterization of January 6th as revisionism.
PREVIOUSLY: JD Vance blamed immigrants for driving up the cost of housing, saying that the “massive increases in home prices that have happened alongside massive increases in illegal alien population.”
But Tim Walz said that the problem is that “we’ve got a lot of folks that see housing as another commodity. It can be shifted, it can be moved around. Those are not the folks that are living in those houses.”
He pointed to Minnesota investment in housing, including down payment assistance.
“We can’t blame immigrants for the only reason. That’s not the case that is happening in many cities,” Walz said.
PREVIOUSLY: A portion of the vice presidential debate was devoted to each candidate’s gaffes.
Tim Walz asked about his past claim that he was in Hong Kong when the Tiananmen Square unrest and massacre occurred in 1989. In fact, Walz was not there during the protests, which culminated in Beijing’s crackdown in June of that year.
“I got there last summer and misspoke on this,” Walz said. He said that he had been a “knucklehead” at times.
Vance was asked about his past comments disparaging Trump, having once compared him to Hitler, as well as disparaging his tenure as president. As he has before, Vance blamed the media for buying into their coverage of Trump.
“I was wrong about Donald Trump,” he said, while implicitly attacking Walz for not doing more press interviews.
PREVIOUSLY: The debate moderators are doing some fact-checking, which has led to a tense moment with JD Vance.
At one point, co-moderator Margaret Brennan noted that a large number of Haitian migrants in Springfield, OH had legal status. Vance has claimed that illegal immigration has devastated that community.
Vance interjected, “The rules were that you weren’t going to fact check, and since you are fact-checking me, I think it is important to say what is going on,” suggesting that it is relatively easy to be granted legal status.
Brennan then said, “Thank you senator for describing the legal process. We have so much to get to senator.”
“It’s been on the books since 1990,” Walz interjected.
The two candidates continued to spar, but by then their mics had been muted. “The audience can’t hear you because your mics are cut,” Brennan said, as she moved on to another topic.
CBS News said before the debate that, while the candidates would not be fact checked like they would be on the Sunday shows, it would still be up to the moderators when to step in. The network also said that it reserved the right to mute mics.
Earlier, during a discussion on climate, co-moderator Norah O’Donnell also noted, “The overwhelming consensus among scientists is that the earth’s climate is warming at an unprecedented rate.”
PREVIOUSLY: Sen. JD Vance (R-OH) and Gov. Tim Walz (D-MN) opened the vice presidential debate by sparring over who is responsible for the unfolding crisis in the Middle East.
House after Iranian missiles rained down on Israel, co-moderators Margaret Brennan asked the candidates whether they would support or oppose Israel making a pre-emptive strike on Tehran’s nuclear capabilities.
Walz did not directly answer the question, but used the time to attack Donald Trump’s fitness for office, saying, “a nearly 80 year old Donald Trump talking about crowd sizes is not what we need in this moment.”
“It’s those that were closest to Donald Trump that understand how dangerous he is when the world is this dangerous,” Walz said, noting those who served in his administration who have warned about him, as well as Vance himself.
He blamed Trump for backing out of the Iran nuclear deal.
“Iran is closer to a nuclear weapon than the were before because of Donald Trump’s fickle leadership,” Walz said.
Vance, meanwhile, said that Trump ushered in an era of stability, saying that he “recognized that for people to fear the United States, you needed peace through strength.”
“They needed to recognize that if they got out of line, the United States global leadership would put stability and peace back in the world,” he said.
Vance pinned blame on Harris for being part of an administration during a time when Iran ramped up its nuclear program.
“You blame Donald Trump. Who has been the vice president for the past three and a half years?” Vance said.
This will likely be the only debate between Vance and Walz — and perhaps the last election year face off this cycle. Donald Trump has so far refused another match up with Kamala Harris, who had accepted CNN’s plans for an Oct. 22 presidential debate. Trump and Harris have held just one debate, an ABC News-sponsored event on Sept. 10.
The candidates appeared in a network studio without an audience, with the political press corps watching on monitors in another part of the CBS Broadcast Center complex.
Typically, vice presidential debates have little impact on a presidential race. One of the more memorable moments came in 1988, when Democrat Lloyd Bentsen, Michael Dukakis’ running mate, dressed down Dan Quayle, the GOP nominee running with George H.W. Bush. “Senator, you’re no Jack Kennedy,” Bentsen famously said to him. The Republican ticket went on to win in the general election, even though the moment has been forever linked to Quayle’s career.
This cycle, with polls showing the race in a dead heat, the debate could very well matter. Neither Walz or Vance had much of a national profile before they each were chosen as running mates, and pundits were largely left to guess how each would come across during the evening.
